Sleeplog not working

[nietsmmar]

I have installed the sleeplog app and it recorded some hours for sleep during the day where I did not sleep, while it did not record any of my actual sleeping hours. Do I have to activate some other thing to make it work?

Also is it possible to see this sleeping data in the GadgetBridge graphs?

[gfwilliams]

If everything is up to date you should see the sleep data in Gadgetbridge.

To get sleeplog working you might have to tweak the thresholds for you. More info is available in the apps's README: https://banglejs.com/apps/?id=sleeplog&readme

[gfwilliams]

@storm64 what values do you use?

The movement detection comes right from the accelerometer so it's unlikely to be broken. I guess it's possible the defaults could be changed a bit though?

[nietsmmar]

The weird thing is that the max threshold that is even possible to set for deep sleep is 200. But my movement is almost never below 200 at night. So I can't even set it to a value that would work for me. That is why I think that maybe the accelerometer is not working properly.

[gfwilliams]

Does the accelerometer value you get vary at all over the night and between the day?

[nietsmmar]

Yes it does. I can link you my data from the last five days. Sleep is mainly when step-count is zero.

https://limewire.com/d/nW739#kQ12V7pPOP

Interestingly when I was loading my bangle. on 27th around 1pm it always shows 88-96 movement. Although my watch was just lying on the table. So maybe it has just 88 or something as zero which increases all my values.

[gfwilliams]

A movement of around 80 at minimum is what I see too - that's kind of expected - the accelerometer does return some 'noise' and we base the movement value on the differences between the readings so it won't ever be 0. I think your values are inline with what I see here.

So really the issue is just that the defaults seem low for you and you can't set them higher? I've just pushed a change to the development app loader to allow you to set higher values (and to bump the default) - if you install 0.20 it'll have that in

[eisengpferd]

looking at the README I woult assume that "Health" must be active and set to 10min log interval because "sleeplog" uses "health" data.

[nietsmmar]

Yes, my health app is active. That seems not to be the problem. But thank you to point that out! I will try to tweak the thresholds and see if this fixes it.

[lunctis-viribus]

@gfwilliams Please revert the changes of Sleeplog v0.20 (i.e. revert the default threshold values to what they were before). my Sleep data in Gadgetbridge Dashboard and Sleep tab are wrong a.t.m. I updated to v0.20 3 days ago. Since then my Light and Deep sleep durations are unrealistically high.

[gfwilliams]

Why don't you just change the threshold values in the settings? Or am I missing something?

Since we were seemingly getting values of 88 for the Bangle sitting on a desk, 100 when worn (even when asleep) feels quite low

[lunctis-viribus]

So what were the default threshold values before Sleeplog v0.20? I don't know.

It is very odd that my (default) Sleeplog settings are changed because 1 other Bangle.js user thinks they should be higher, breaking my long history of accurate Sleep data in Gadgetbridge.

[thyttan]

So what were the default threshold values before Sleeplog v0.20? I don't know.

Detailed in this comment by @nietsmmar: #7801 (reply in thread)

Edit: also verified in the commit with the change at espruino/BangleApps@1c69208

[gfwilliams]

It is very odd that my (default) Sleeplog settings are changed because 1 other Bangle.js user thinks they should be higher,

All I can do is look at the report, and the data they have (and that my Bangle has collected) and make a change. I've also seen several posts on here from users saying that Sleeplog didn't work for them out of the box and they had to change the defaults, so I'm attempting to make it better for everyone.

I contacted the initial author to ask in that issue above, but no response from him or from anyone else saying that the defaults were ok, so I had to make a decision.

Before I change it back because of one person I'd really appreciate it if anyone else using sleeplog could tell me what settings they're using? perhaps we could get more of a consensus this time.

[lunctis-viribus]

So nobody who updated to Sleeplog v0.20 is noticing strange patterns? Cannot believe that, but anyway I changed back to the original thresholds myself.

[nietsmmar]

@gfwilliams I tried with new settings since the new version but somehow my sleeplog is not tracking correctly.
I used these settings for testing for a couple of days:

- Max awake: 60min
- Min Consecutive: 40min
- Deep Sleep: 200
- Light Sleep: 350
- Wear Temperature: Disabled (idk what this setting does)

Except one day, my nights look like this:

Maybe I did not understand how the sleeplog settings work correctly? I thought it should log sleep with these tracked movements, but it almost always shows me "UNKNOWN". Apparently I move a lot lot more than others and my deep sleep threshold is still not high enough but I would have expected it to track light sleep.

Also I wonder if it could also take heart rate into account as I also have some moments during the day, where I don't move a lot while sitting on my desk but it should not track as sleeping.