What can we improve from now on?

[6r1d]

Things are calming down, but we have two communities from now on. One denounces RMS, other doesn't.
There's still little communication and there's a bit of conflict when somebody doesn't want to listen to you.

The fact many don't know the situation can potentially hurt RMS at a later date.
FSF is almost broken, and it's probably broken because it relied on sponsorship money.
The fact our letter only had appeared only in some news is strange, as well.

What can we do from now on to mend and improve things? Should we act at all? I propose an open discussion on that matter.

[Miezhiko]

I have suggestion: let close all our opensource projects (sorry in advance)

[6r1d]

(sorry in advance)

You don't have to be sorry for helping us think. Nobody should feel this way. There are too much reaction to the very discussion, so we get distracted and point fingers. And that hurts the community.

I have suggestion: let close all our opensource projects

You have a point, actually. But that way helps the large companies, because it'll lead at worst to development of better disassembler and more closed source future. Or only one community that tends to ignore evidence.

[Miezhiko]

I understand. That's my initiative and there is no alternatives for now. But that's something alive right now.

[6r1d]

I understand. That's my initiative

Yes, you decide.

and there is no alternatives for now. But that's something alive right now.

Well, we have lots of good people with us. I think there are many things we can do.

[shenlebantongying]

The mission of this repo is completed. Bumping the number up is no longer impactful. The purpose is not to "fight over number" or "fighting between two parties". It's meaningless.

There's still little communication

No, there are shit ton of communication already. Besides, the message already spread to the whole community.

Further things don't have to initiate from this repo. Just wait for the next move of FSF.

Instead, we should stop accepting new signs as the open letter, so that we can do something else.

[6r1d]

The mission of this repo is completed. Bumping the number up is no longer impactful. The purpose is not to "fight over number" or "fighting between two parties". It's meaningless.

Huh, you have an interesting point. And you already told me something along the lines before.

Further things don't have to initiate from this repo. Just wait for the next move of FSF.

Makes sense.

Instead, we should stop accepting new signs as the open letter, so that we can do something else.

Honestly, it feels like a good idea to me, too.

[nukeop]

Further things don't have to initiate from this repo. Just wait for the next move of FSF.

Instead, we should stop accepting new signs as the open letter, so that we can do something else.

Yes, I was thinking of closing the letter tomorrow, after merging the last batch of signatures from codeberg etc.
Mission accomplished.

[franpoli]

Unlike our opponents, as we close the letter, we should make a brief statement about our achievement. It would be good to end this action with an encouragement and unifying message.

[Tw1ddle]

Once signatures are no longer accepted, adding a closing statement above the letter that suggests other ways to provide support (e.g. making FSF donations or membership) could be constructive.

[shenlebantongying]

Maybe this thing on top of README?

[kchanqvq]

I have suggestion: let close all our opensource projects (sorry in advance)

I thought about another idea: relicense on our projects under a license that explicitly disallow or create trouble for MegaCorps. I think to do that, we just need such a clause: "You're free to use, reproduce or modify the software by any means, but any such usage is illegal" or so. It will be easy for anonymous hackers to develop and use such projects, but almost completely impossible for MegaCorps.

I don't know enough law to work out the full details. Any thoughts?

[6r1d]

I don't know enough law to work out the full details. Any thoughts?

While RMS was causing enough trouble for the corporations, I am not sure how much luck was involved.
Your approach will expand legal battles and we aren't an army of lawyers at the end of the day. I'm not sure if those are good or bad, though. If they'll allow to attract more attention to many real problems in software industry, so be it.

At this point, many of us had a wakeup call: seeing how many people or bots prevent important information from spreading was weird. Seeing how biased platforms are is weird, as well.

There are several routes we can take. One I would propose is to educate people. Not on RMS (who is very important), but more generally, how to start actually looking at evidence, how to treat evidence (critical thinking), gather enough of it, how to make theories from it (which is a tedious process people often replace with borrowed views called scientific method). If people knew even a part of it, none of what happened would happen. I hope.

And I hope we'll remain as a community to write code and react on weird stuff, too.

[shenlebantongying]

One I would propose is to educate people.

In theory, we can get world peace by doing that :)

[nukeop]

I thought about another idea: relicense on our projects under a license that explicitly disallow or create trouble for MegaCorps.

It's called GPLv3 and AGPLv3.

[6r1d]

In theory, we can get world peace by doing that :)

I know it won't help immediately. But it'll help gradually. A tiny bit. Ish. We don't have a "fixus everythingus" spell, sadly.